Cimaises-et-plus consistently delivers quickly and reliably, with many reviews noting fast delivery, trackable shipments, and orders arriving on time or within a week, often with even quick mailbox delivery and careful packaging. Customers highlight specific product strengths such as well-packaged items, materials described as very good, lightweight and practical rails, and ease of installation that lets users hang paintings promptly. The store’s service and responsiveness are praised, including polite, professional handling of exchanges or replacements and helpful phone or email support that resolves issues efficiently. Overall, customers repeatedly mention dependable delivery, solid product quality, and attentive customer service as key strengths.
This concerns the transport: The box was deformed during transport. I opened part of the packaging and not seeing any deformation of the rails (apparently), I did not make any reservations. While unpacking in the museum, I noticed a bending of the rails. It did not have any consequences on the mounting on the walls, the deformation disappeared with the fixing. I wanted to inform you of this malfunction. Best regards, Michel Weber
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Michel,
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. We are pleased to learn that the deformation of the rails ultimately did not impact your mounting, even though we fully understand that it could have been concerning during unpacking.
We certainly take your comment into consideration, as the quality of our products and their proper reception are essential to us. Your feedback helps us remain attentive at every stage to continue improving our products and services.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Clement F.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 20/07/2026
Delivery time almost 3 weeks for a single picture rail
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
The PX175F flexible molding was unfortunately temporarily out of stock.
We apologize for the wait.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Gerald D.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 18/07/2026
For now, I am not satisfied. I requested a return because it does not fit our room. I have had no feedback to date....
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Gerald,
We are sorry to learn that your experience did not meet your expectations.
Your return request is important to us, and we invite you to contact us directly so that we can resolve this issue together.
I cannot find a request under your name.
We thank you for your understanding and hope to assist you as soon as possible.
Sincerely,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Simone P.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 22/07/2026
Disastrous, no respect for the customer
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Madam,
We are sincerely sorry that your experience was so disappointing.
We fully understand your dissatisfaction regarding the difficulties encountered during delivery.
After verification, we did indeed carry out the necessary steps on our side to ensure that your order was processed and shipped under the best conditions.
The problem encountered unfortunately seems to be related to the carrier's handling, a situation independent of our will.
We regret the inconveniences caused and remain attentive to ensure that this type of situation can be avoided as much as possible in the future.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Florence F.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 06/07/2026
Having quality products is good but the transport must follow. The orac products will now be ordered from another site that does not use the DPD carrier and honors the delivery date given. Respect for the customer goes through that.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
We are sorry that this delivery did not meet your expectations.
We work with DPD for express delivery to ensure a fast and reliable service.
As with any carrier, occasional incidents may unfortunately occur, but such problems are exceptional and do not reflect the quality of service we wish to offer our customers.
We remain attentive to these situations and take necessary actions when they arise. The satisfaction and respect of our customers remain at the heart of our priorities.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Virginie F.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 04/07/2026
The product was broken.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Virginie,
We are sincerely sorry to learn that the product you received was broken. Your satisfaction is very important to us, and we would like to invite you to contact us directly to find a solution to this inconvenience.
We thank you for your understanding and remain at your disposal.
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Antonin H.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 16/06/2026
I was thinking of buying a kit to straighten a frame but the received parts cannot be used alone. The photos are misleading.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
You purchased two straightening kits (for two paintings). Each kit consists of two straighteners.
What did you receive?
Best regards,
Coralie P.
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Florence S.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 14/06/2026
Impossible to verify the quality of the material, the package arrived with the picture rails bent. Packaging protection needs to be reviewed. I cancel the order which will arrive too late. Refund in progress (withdrawal period).
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Florence,
We are sorry to hear that your experience did not meet your expectations. We take note of your comments.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Didier M.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 01/06/2026
Delivery error on the product due to poor preparation in your store reference error + size error Result for us; defective site and for any excuse from you "oops it must be an error from our preparer...."
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Didier,
We understand your disappointment regarding this delivery error and we are sincerely sorry.
We invite you to contact us privately to find a satisfactory solution to this situation together.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Thomas B.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 25/05/2026
I am not satisfied with the product received and I request a refund. The solution proposed by phone does not suit me, the characteristics of the proposed rails are not precise enough to be sure of the good utility of the purchased products. There should be more choices of rails.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
You purchased 10 hooks 4 kg for wires/cables of 2 mm. We offer many other models of hooks.
If you are not satisfied, you have 14 days after receipt to request a refund (after return at your expense).
If you wish to return the hooks, please confirm this to me at: [email protected] and I will send you a return slip to include with your return.
Best regards,
Coralie P.
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Sebastien L.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 22/05/2026
The kit I bought is not designed for installation on plasterboard. Therefore, the mounting clips had to be adapted. Quite ironic for pros of hanging!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
You ordered a CLICK RAIL PREMIUM kit, supplied with screws and multi-material plugs, suitable for plasterboard.
Our craftsman uses them for his picture rail installations.
For your information, the screws provided with the Molly plugs are rounded and do not allow the rail to clip properly.
Best regards,
Coralie P.
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Guy B.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 29/04/2026
I sent an email for product error
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
To which address did you send it? Did you not receive a response?
Feel free to write to us at: [email protected] or via the chatbox on the site.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Redoen E.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 16/04/2026
This is absolutely not what I ordered
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Redoen,
Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback.
We are sorry to hear that your order did not meet your expectations.
Your satisfaction is paramount to us and we would be happy to understand more about your situation in order to remedy it.
Please feel free to contact us directly so that we can assist you.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Frédéric R.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 15/04/2026
The delivery is incomplete, I ordered 2 kits (rods + 4 hooks per rod) and I received 2 rods but only one bag of 4 hooks.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Frédéric,
Thank you for your feedback.
We are sorry for this situation and we are committed to resolving this issue quickly.
Your satisfaction is our priority.
To do this, please do not hesitate to contact us directly so that we can send you the items as soon as possible.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Christine L.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 09/04/2026
My package arrived empty. As I had already accepted it, the customer service of the delivery company told me that there was no possible recourse.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
Did you contact us?
Did you accept the empty package?
In a case like this, you need to contact us within 48 hours (with photo submission) so that we can take action against the carrier.
Looking forward to your reply,
Best regards,
Customer service
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Michèle R.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 10/03/2026
I have not received the package! Three times, a delivery date was given, and the package was not delivered, blocking an entire day of waiting each time. With at the end of the day a message from the delivery person: delivery impossible. Pretending twice that he did not have my phone number to warn me when he arrived. While my phone number is included in the delivery information. And a third time when I contacted the delivery center, I was told delivery truck broke down? But I only received at the end of the day around 5 PM the cancellation of the delivery for a truck that broke down at noon!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Madam,
As agreed during our exchange yesterday, I have forwarded all the information to the carrier. This situation is indeed not in line with our standards.
The delivery has been rescheduled for today, and I have also contacted our sales department so that they can get in touch with the delivery agency to follow up.
I also note that you requested a drop-off of the package at a PICKUP relay point. However, given the length of the package (200 cm) and the acceptance constraints of many relay points, I cannot guarantee that this option is feasible. Nevertheless, it seems that this was possible during your previous order, which is encouraging.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused by this situation and remain at your disposal for any further information.
Best regards,
Coralie P.
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Petra P.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 27/02/2026
The rails are good, but I didn't see any indication to choose the right hooks for these rails. They are too big and some paintings have fallen.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
After checking, you ordered hooks for square rods 4x4 mm (indications in the product sheet) with round rods of 2 mm. Indeed, these two items are not compatible. With your rods, you need hooks AC94261 for example (self-locking 15 kg).
Feel free to contact us by email or phone for any questions.
Best regards,
Coralie P.
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Hervé K.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 03/02/2026
There was a mistake: instead of being delivered in 48 hours it took 10 days. A disaster on this order
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Hervé,
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. We are sincerely sorry for this delivery delay which does not reflect our commitment to our customers. Your satisfaction is paramount to us and we are doing everything possible to improve our service. Do not hesitate to contact us directly for any questions or assistance needs.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Marine L.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 12/01/2026
I had ordered 28 picture rails and I received 21. I alerted customer service 3 days ago but have not received a response.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
Thank you for your message and please first accept our apologies for this preparation error. It is indeed quite unusual for a request to go unanswered; it is possible that your message did not reach us.
I am immediately forwarding your file to the logistics department, which will contact you as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Coralie P.
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Jean D.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 28/12/2025
I still haven't received my order and I can't comment on the quality of your products. However, I would really like to receive my order so that I can hang up frames that clutter my house. Thank you for your help.
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Jean François H.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 09/12/2025
If you want an opinion, you need to pay me. You make a lot of money from the collected reviews. Your products are not free, and neither are my reviews!!!!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
We understand the message. Unfortunately, our accountant is clear: reviews are paid only in gratitude, in consideration... and sometimes in self-mockery. Products are not free, that's true. Reviews aren't either — they are free. And this one clearly made us smile, so thank you anyway.
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Frédéric R.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 26/11/2025
The package I received was in bad condition and I refused it... Since then, despite my call to you, I have had no news of my order!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello,
We sincerely apologize for this regrettable situation. As my colleague indicated to you, we had to wait for the return of your package before we could proceed with the replacement shipment.
It arrived at the end of last week, and a processing delay was necessary.
We confirm that your new package is scheduled to depart today, with all the necessary attention to ensure delivery under the best conditions.
Thank you for your patience and we remain at your disposal for any further information.
Best regards,
The Cimaises & Plus team
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Veronique L.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 03/11/2025
order still not received to this day
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Véronique,
Thank you for your message and we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused.
After verification, the steel rods were out of stock for three days, which slightly delayed the shipment of your order. It was indeed sent on 07/11.
However, we note that the carrier DPD has held your package for 12 days, indicating a problem in their delivery process.
You should have normally been notified by their services.
According to the tracking, delivery is scheduled for today, 19/11.
We deeply regret this situation beyond our control and remain at your disposal for any further assistance.
Best regards,
The Cimaises-et-plus team
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Mario S.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 15/10/2025
Lack of communication very disappointed
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, Thank you for your message. We are sincerely sorry to learn of your disappointment, as we are committed to fully satisfying our customers, both in terms of the quality of our products and our service. After checking, your order placed on Wednesday, October 15 in the afternoon was indeed shipped on Thursday, October 16, in accordance with our announced deadlines (any order placed after 12 PM is processed the following day), and delivered on Saturday, October 18 via Colissimo. It was therefore delivered within the expected timeframe. Regarding your comment about a lack of communication, we are sorry if this gave you that impression. An order confirmation email as well as a shipping tracking email are normally sent automatically. It is possible that one of these messages was filtered into your spam or was not received properly. In any case, we take your feedback very seriously. Please do not hesitate to tell us more specifically what you felt was lacking in terms of communication, so that we can improve. Thank you for your trust, Best regards, Coralie P.
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Eric P.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 06/08/2025
Order not received - Phone call made to claim and yet nothing has been done. We were supposed to be called back and we are still waiting, for 2 weeks. And the invoice was settled at the time of the order. Unthinkable!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, As discussed with my colleague Paul yesterday, the merchandise will be resent to you. The package is ready to go today via DPD, it will be picked up by the carrier in the early afternoon and delivered to your premises within one to two working days. Unfortunately, logistics did not have the information, we apologize for this oversight. We are opening an investigation with the carrier, if the package is delivered to you a second time, I invite you to get back to us. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Hans T.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 03/06/2025
I ordered 5 painting rails and assumed that the mounting blocks would be included automatically. This is false - it seems that you are expected to use the rails without fixings, even though I really wouldn't know how to do that. So I ordered them again and they turned out inexplicably expensive.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Sir, I am sorry that you did not order the correct item. We try to be as clear as possible on the site. We have included a summary of the necessary items for a complete set on each range of rails to avoid omissions. The rails are indeed sold with and without fixings. This is clearly specified on the items. Some customers wish to order only the rails or only the fixings because they have, for example, fixings left from a previous installation and vice versa. Regarding the price of fixings separately, it is the same as when you order the rail and its fixings (in the same item). Best regards, The team at cimaises-et-plus.com
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Marie-Laurence N.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 13/05/2025
Order not received due to DPD not delivering to the correct address, and not calling for delivery, so order lost, plus they need 5 days to conduct a search. But now it has been more than 5 days and still no news. The Cimaises et + site should change carriers.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Madam, The 5-day delay corresponds to the time of the investigation to locate the delivered package. You contacted me on 20/05 and I got back to you on 21/05 with information regarding the delivery. The package had been left at your company's depot at another address as we discussed. Please know that I have asked DPD's customer service not to leave packages at this other address. I was assured that the information would be passed on to the delivering agency. As mentioned, it is also advisable for warehouse staff to refuse packages intended for your offices. Hoping you have been able to retrieve your package since our last exchange. I wish you a good day. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Philippe R.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 05/12/2024
I have not received my order
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Sir, We apologize for the wait. Your package left our facility on Monday, December 9th by tracked letter. It seems that the Post Office is experiencing issues. The status of your shipment changed today. The Post Office tracking indicates: "Tuesday, December 17th at 9:01 AM - Your shipment is at its distribution site. We are preparing it for delivery." You should not have to wait much longer to receive the shipment. If you have not received anything by the end of the week, please keep us informed, we will resend the order. With our sincere apologies. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Jean C.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 30/09/2024
Package damaged during delivery, defective without surprise due to the quality of the packaging clearly unsuitable for the volume and weight of the delivered equipment... Poor quality delivery service: the national delivery provider announces the delivery on its website with a simultaneous email - mention 'package in the delivery truck' - on a given day, thus forcing to wait for delivery all day long on that day as no time slot was proposed. Delivery not made on that day. The package was finally delivered the next day - the delivery provider's website announced this delivery this time with the mention 'package at the agency' but without more time slot provided by the delivery provider's website. No possibility to contact the local agency of this same national delivery provider, only a central telephone platform is 'available' to inquire more precisely, a platform that when contacted indicates that indeed the website provides incorrect information... Champagne! The only good point regarding this delivery is the friendliness and professionalism of the final delivery person - a subcontractor - who properly pointed out the packaging issue. I had chosen my picture rail supplier because previous deliveries were of better quality than a cheaper competitor... This is apparently no longer the case. The quality of delivery is a critical criterion for me for online orders, so I will think twice before using this site again.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
My response to your previous review: Hello Sir, According to what I see on the DPD interface, your package was picked up on 1/10 and delivered on 3/10. The package was therefore delivered on time. I do not see any information regarding a delivery on 2/10, it was, I think, an erroneous message. I confirm that it is not normal that a delivery time slot was not communicated to you. All individuals benefit from the PREDICT service with a delivery time slot: morning or afternoon. We sincerely apologize for this malfunction, which we will report to DPD. Regarding the boxes, they are perfectly suited for sending picture rails. If you did have damaged products, I invite you to call our customer service who will take care of it. However, I will check with our logistics service what might have happened and if they did not put too many rails in one box. In any case, we are sorry that the service did not meet your expectations. For your information, we changed our carrier to DPD about 8 years ago, precisely to provide quality delivery service to our customers. Unfortunately, our shipments are 'non-standard' with a majority of shipments of 200 cm, which all express carriers do not accept. Other carriers could send our orders but at higher rates for customers and/or with longer delays (outside express delivery). However, we do not rule out the idea of offering an alternative transport solution to our customers. That said, most of the time, customers are satisfied with the service provided by DPD (both in terms of cost and delay and information) but it can happen, on the margin, that there are some issues with certain deliveries. I see that you have ordered several times from us and that the transport has always gone well with DPD except this time. This may be an isolated case. Please know that our customer service is available from Monday to Friday from 9 am to 1 pm and from 2 pm to 6 pm as well as Saturday morning (9 am to 1 pm) to answer all your questions. We can certainly help you if there is a transport issue and perhaps obtain certain information more easily from the carrier. Hoping to see you again on the Cimaises & Plus site. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Dominique G.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 23/07/2024
Order placed on 23/07. Damaged merchandise received. First email sent for replacement or financial compensation and 10 days later no response. Second email sent but does not lead to anything...
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Madam, We cannot find any trace of your two emails. Did you receive a first response from us? To which address did you send your email? Please send me the details (photos and details of the damaged items) to: [email protected] Was the package damaged? Looking forward to your reply, Best regards, Coralie P.
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Christine P.
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 28/06/2024
Delivery deadlines not respected
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Madam, Indeed we were conducting an inventory of our stock this week and shipments have been delayed as a result. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused. Best regards, Cimaises et plus
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Jacques C.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 24/06/2024
Delayed delivery, almost a month instead of the promised 48 hours!!!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, The poster holder "POSTER-PANT" of 60 cm is indeed out of stock. I acknowledge that there was an update error on the site. We have corrected this. For your information, this product is made in small series in Brittany (the manufacturing time is generally one to two months). We have an order in progress, the carpenter informed me that production would be completed this week. We are therefore expecting your poster holder (60 cm) during the next week (the other model is indeed in stock). You will therefore be delivered earlier (mid/end of next week or the beginning of the following week at the latest). Our apologies for this inconvenience. Best regards, The Cimaises & Plus Team
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Christian S.
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 26/05/2024
Products meet my expectations but ... 5 missing hooks and coincidentally 5 extra rods as if to compensate, without a single word of explanation. And to top it all off, despite being told that delivery would happen three mornings in a row, I was only delivered on the third day.
I know that Cimaises & + is not responsible for delivery issues but for a first order I find that this is quite a lot.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Sir, If we made a preparation error, you can contact us so that we send you the missing item. We have no reason to send rods (more expensive) to compensate for a possible absence of hooks. Could you specify whether it is 5 picture hooks (AC94205) or 5 partition hooks (AC94504) that you are missing? We will send them to you. Looking forward to hearing from you, Best regards, Coralie P. email: [email protected] tel: 01 40 58 11 70
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 03/05/2024
Delivery canceled and postponed twice by DPD. We are still waiting for the package
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, After checking, your package was delivered on Saturday 11/05 after two delivery postponements (on the 7th and the 10th). We apologize for this inconvenience. Best regards, The Cimaises & Plus team
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 20/04/2024
I waited 5 days and heard nothing about my package. I had to ask them for news about my order. Results: Cimaises out of stock... but offered for sale. I also had to insist that they replace everything since they didn't even know if they would benefit from a restock of the cimaises. Naturally disappointed by these false stocks, this lack of responsiveness, and the weak solutions proposed while we were waiting.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Sir, I am sorry for the problem you encountered. I just checked with the logistics service. Your order was shipped on Thursday 25/04 instead of Monday 22/04 due to an exceptional shortage of R30 rods. We were supposed to receive the (5) missing rods on Friday 26/04 but given the urgency, you requested an exchange for another model of rods. Our logistics service responded favorably to your request and shipped the package immediately, and you were able to be delivered on 26/04. I am aware that there was an error on our part and that the stock of R30 rods was incorrect, and I apologize for that. Furthermore, we should have indeed called you on Monday 22 to inform you. I will escalate this to our logistics service to ensure it does not happen again. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 29/01/2024
Unfortunately the delivery was supposed to be at home...... it was delivered to a depot 10 km from my home while there is one 500m away DPD a terrible service
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Madam, We are sorry for this inconvenience. For your information, when the customer chooses a delivery, the carrier is required to make a first pass at their home. The date is communicated to you in advance and you can change it if it does not suit you. In the absence of modification by the customer and if the delivery person cannot deliver on the day
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 30/11/2023
Package not received
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, I just checked your tracking, your package was delivered today. Can you confirm? Samples may take longer if one (or more) references are missing (temporary out of stock) and we do not have everything in store. Indeed, in this case, the factory must send us new ones. We apologize for the delay. Best regards, Coralie PIED
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 1 out of 5
following a purchase from 21/11/2023
The box was delivered open at both ends placed in the yard of the house lying against a wall, some baseboards have defects.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, Did you contact customer service so that we can send a replacement? The carrier is at fault if they left the package in the yard and did not have you sign for receipt. You are therefore covered in case of a problem. If there are damaged moldings, please take photos upon receipt and send them to us so we can send new baseboards. In any case, sorry for these delivery conditions. We will inform the carrier. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 23/07/2023
Did not receive the right product!
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello Sir, Have you contacted us regarding this issue so that we can resolve it? I cannot find any request from you. I will contact you by email in the morning. Best regards, Coralie P.
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Acheteur Vérifié
Rating: 2 out of 5
following a purchase from 09/07/2023
Too important as a spotlight, so difficult to hide behind an object and the light is too weak. I put two on the same piece of furniture to illuminate the same painting (1.10 x 1.00). If I had kept the boxes, I would have returned them to you. Too bad. Thank you anyway.
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Response from Cimaises-et-plus
Hello, Thank you for your feedback. Indeed, without the box, we unfortunately cannot take back the items. These spots are not designed to be hidden behind an object. The power and dimensions are indicated in the technical sheet available on the product page. Best regards, Coralie P.
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